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I felt so bad that I made you review 3 tracks all at once that I had to write this thing out hahhaha. Here we go...

I think the beat is great. The instrumentation (percussion) sounds pretty legit! Also, don't you hate how sub-bass is practically inaudible except on decent headphones? Like, my dumb macbook can't even play any sub bass under like C4. Which is everything. LOL. (In fact, even on my good pair of headphones your sub-bass kinda disappears at points and reappears at others. This is why bass is hard. I'm not judging you based on that though...)

I have two main complaints. First, that brass vst thing. Sounds so fake. It's so fake that you might just want to flat out replace it with something obviously synthetic, maybe some sort of synth or something. If you want to pursue the brass route, you could try to find a brass VST of some sort that you could tweak the attack (how fast the note comes in) on. The main thing that makes it sound fake currently is that the attack on every note is the same.

Second though is the melodies that the brass instrument plays. Most of the time they just feel very random and they meander a lot without expressing too much, and I hear a good bit of dissonance as well, e.g.1:22. I think that you should work on this. One big suggestion: add more repetition. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but you have a lot of good little ideas scattered throughout the piece and by repeating one of them more (rather than just moving to another one) you could add a sense of meaning and coherence to the piece. :37-:44 for instance you could repeat a lot (I hear it once more later on currently). I dunno if you listen to hip hop a lot, but a lot of hip hop essentially takes a single sample and loop it through the entire piece.

I definitely didn't get into hip hop until I was at least a couple of years older than you, but if you want to get a head start, check out something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZWS6CITutY

First, notice that the backing is really as simple as I said, it's just a super simple drum beat, a bass groove, and (eventually) a super repetitive brass loop. It's really easy to overthink hip-hop I guess, but you really don't have to go overboard. Simple things can work really well.

You might hate me for saying this but if you stripped out the brass entirely I might have given this a 7 or 8. Sometimes simple is better!

P.S. "it's basically me creepily whispering into the mic about how water diffuses into and out of the kidney"

LOLOL this sounds like the best thing ever. Step aside Kanye :D

TaintedLogic responds:

Thanks so much for the detailed review, which probably at least matches the reviews I made on your tracks in combined length! ;) Thanks for you advice about playing with the attack. I've been trying to get more authentic samples, but I don't have a lot of time or money to invest in that. I knew someone would comment about the lack of coherence. I wanted to mimic the experimental nature of some jazz music, but I'll try to add more repetition in the future. Believe me: hip-hop is probably my least favorite genre of music, although there are some songs I like in every genre. I think I often try to make my tracks too complicated and varied. I'll think about that more in the future. I don't hate you for craving simplicity, btw, and nobody was MAKING me review your tracks - I WANTED to! :D Thanks again, though, Johnfn! ;)

P.S. "Step aside Kanye." ~Yeah, a lot of my classmates made jokes like that too. XD

Oh wow this song was driving me absolutely nuts because I couldn't figure out where I recognized that initial riff from. I almost assumed I was just going crazy when I found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkKsID6Rp6o (Skip to 1:03)

Cryptomnesia is a really annoying thing to happens to you. But I think this piece is interesting because it interprets the initial theme in a different way, it's almost like an adaption of the song above.

The funny thing is that the idea at 2:35 sounds really familiar too. I think it's probably just that build up to the suspended resolution thing that seems a little familiar. It might sound like I'm complaining but honestly I don't think I'll ever get tired of the resolution of suspended chords :D I actually hear it a few more times towards the end, but it's executed best at 2:35 imo because it has that really lovely lead in that starts like 10s earlier.

This is another excellent improvisation. I come up with a lot of interesting ideas when sleep deprived, but nothing as coherent as this. The chords are really interesting and dark.

Though I'm not as imaginative as TheDoor6, I get a strong sense of loss from this piece, mostly from the main motif that kicks off the piece. There's also this black and white feel to this piece, like it would fit really well in one of those old silent films.

Overall, excellent piece. I'm stuck between 8 and 9.

P.S. Your improvisational stuff is actually really inspirational and I've started incorporating some of your ideas and styles in my own improv. I still have a long way to go though haha.

BlazingDragon responds:

The riff is pretty similar to the song you posted. I might have subconsciously borrowed it from there since I love the Chrono Cross soundtrack, but it is also a fairly common pattern. The chord progressions in that piece and my own are quite different though!

I have to admit that I love those suspension/resolutions as well, even if they are a bit cliche. :p I've done a lot of work emulating other composers and am still finding my own musical voice, so it does not surprise me that much of this sounds similar. Especially since it is improv and I'm falling back on things I've heard my whole life. But that's some of the fun; taking ideas from many people and mixing them together in a way that is uniquely my own! :)

Thanks so much for another thoughtful review John. I really love listening to your stuff and am envious of your skills with electronic music. Great stuff you've got!

Oh my goodness. This reminds me a LOT of the stuff that I used to write a couple of years ago, when I would just throw whatever the heck I wanted to into the song, and switch it up every time I got bored of the last idea I had. Plus you have the same focus on melody over pretty much everything else that I used to have (and still do), which is something that I always appreciate.

Looove that guitary synth at 1:07 :D

If I were to give advice to my past self... Well, I actually still have problems where I can't focus on a single idea for too long. The trick is to transition them properly so no one can tell that the ideas are totally different. I think you're actually doing pretty good at that already.

The other thing I had problems with, and maybe you do too, is the whole concept of buildup/breakdown. It took me a long time to realize that having breakdowns was just as important as having climaxes because the breakdown really gives emphasis to the climax. Plus, if you do proper buildup/breakdown, you can take one of these 30 second ideas and expand it out to a minute or two.

Last thing is instrument choice. Nearly all the instruments you're using here sound pretty cheesy, especially in the first half. You could make the song much better with more attention to instrument choice.

Mixing problems: that thing at :45 really hits out of nowhere. It's far too loud and completely overpowers the rest of the song.

All in all I like it though because you remind me of me and I'm a narcissist. lol. But really I do like it, I'll be keeping an eye on you.

P.S. Bagface lol.

LunacyEcho responds:

Somehow, through a series of strategically placed suggestions, I've gotten the top two NGADM '13 finishers to comment on my songs. SOON, I SHALL HAVE THEM ALL IN MY GRASP!

Thanks a lot for commenting, johnfn. This really means a lot.

If I remind you of yourself, then that's probably a good sign, right? :D

The whole buildups/breakdowns thing never really occurred to me when I first started out making music. Similar to this song, I'd just slap whatever I thought sounded nice into a song and call it a day. There definitely isn't a lot to be said about the structure of this one, but I think that when I made it, I was trying to expand my abilities in different genres as opposed to trying to get better at the structure of a song. Also, the instruments. Hehe. Sorry about that. It just sounded so funny. However, I see what you mean in both of those. I'll try implementing them in future projects.

Hm... Yeah, "that thing" was pretty weird. I'm not quite sure where it came from. It sounded so weird, I had to include it. Won't happen again, sir.

'Bagface'. I try putting hidden stuff in lots of my songs and mp3 files. Personally, I find fun in knowing things that others don't.

Again, thanks a lot for commenting!

Good stuff. Though this is a very minimalistic piece you use what is there very effectively. I really like those echoy noises in the first half - they give a really nice atmosphere. Plus those really nice and subtle strings (that sound a little metallic somehow).

The piano in the first half is really nice too. Great outer space feel.

This piece is making me think that I should really be spending more time on instrument selection and sound design and blablbalbl. AKA BUY OMNISPHERE. lol. Anyway good stuff.

SkyeWint responds:

Hey there, john.

All those echoy noises are random things from like, random sound effects I used in Birth of an Astral Nation, something from Logic which I exported and edited, and then a cool sound made from rubbing a bass drum with a finger.

Also. >spending more time on instrument selection and sound design. BUY OMNISPHERE
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. Find me on IRC. SkyeWint on irc.rizon.net or on irc.esper.net (yes, I joined there finally as you suggested. Get yer bum on and let's talk)

Your previous piece "Alone and Adrift in the Darkness of Space" is legitimately one of my favorite songs on this site. I liked it so much that I made a post about it and sent it to all my friends.

That piano and silence in the middle is really nice. The silence is just long enough to make me wonder if the song is gone before the next chord comes in.

I really like this piece. I have a soft spot for swelling strings I guess and your incorporation of them in this piece, like in "Alone and Adrift," is perfect. I wouldn't call it classical, it feels a lot more like an ambient piece to me, something like it's been done by "Stars of the Lid" perhaps (though they wouldn't dare use a sitar!). That obviously doesn't diminish from how much I enjoy the song, of course.

Another beautiful song. Thank you for this.

RetromanOMG responds:

I was really concerned about the piano part. I liked it, but didn't think the silence would be particularly appreciated by Newgrounds. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'm especially glad you're such a fan of this song and my music in general!

Lovely stripped down arrangement, great vocals and chords. But the real reason I'm leaving you this review is to let you know that this song has been stuck in my head for the last few days.

I think I hear some slight clipping eg 2:05. That is my only complaint. Aside from that this song is perfect. It feels like it should have a million hits on Youtube (checking... well, not there yet, but it'll get there).

P.S. Dat koopa line.

headphoamz responds:

Daw. Thanks john :D

This is improvisational? OH MY GOD.

This is the first time I've ever favorited someone just after hearing a single piece of theirs. I love the whole thing and you have some ridiculous skill. I'm a biig fan of the monochromatically descending baselines that you do a lot in the beginning of the piece (and a little towards the end too).

One of my favorite parts is that chord at 3:09, I think it's Fm(?), and then how at 3:14 it goes to E, soo good raghh. Also that ascent at 2:21, such a pleasant surprise. And the sweeping arpeggios.

This piece is amazing please write more music soon.

Qiz responds:

I used to hear those chromatically descending bass lines in other songs and fell in love with them. In my music theory classes, I found out that they were usually made of secondary dominants and borrowed chords. I spent quite a bit of time learning them in every inversion and trying to figure out how to chain them together. It really opened up a whole new sonic palette for me, and now they come pretty much automatically.

Thank you so much for adding me to your favorites. I really like the work you do, and your piece "the fight" absolutely blew my mind. I really wish that I had those kind of chops in electronic music but have absolutely no idea where to start. You should have way more fans with the music you make.

Oh man... Sanctuary... The song with like 100 reviews... the ultimate challenge as an Audio Reviewer. My review started getting long enough that I needed to split it up into sections, where I would critique individual aspects of the song.

MELODY

Not even gonna bother, the melodies are great. Some are better than others, but I'll get into this in the arrangement section.

MIXING

You've got to be kidding me. The mixing is perfect. Splitting this review up is starting to look dumb. NEXT SECTION

PERCUSSION

Looove. A highlight for me is 1:08 with the vaguely ethnic feel. Also 1:28 with the driving boomy hits. Or the tense tams at 3:11. So much detail work!

ARRANGEMENT

The buildup from 1:00 to 1:20 is really well done and seamless, and the transition at 1:28 is just lovely. Which is good too, because it leads to THE BEST MELODY IN THE HISTORY OF NEWGROUNDS. Alright, that might be *slightly* superlative, but I could really point to only a handful of songs with comparable melodic expressivity to that point, at least on this site.

So let's talk about arrangement - and move in from macro level to micro level arrangement. I assume we're both in agreement that 1:28 is the obvious highlight of this piece. I mean, there is a lot of other great stuff in this piece, but it's not going to top 1:28. So what I think is that 1:28 should come later into the piece. Like, it's the climax, so it should come near to the end, otherwise you're just waiting for the piece to build down, and people are much more willing to let the song build up (rising tension) rather than waiting for the song to build down (falling tension). I think that all the stuff starting at around 2:00 once the 1:28 melody is finally been played out could be moved to the beginning of the song.

While we're talking about it, the thing that I notice that really good artists do is that they'll foreshadow the melody ahead of time. An excellent example of this is "Alone and Adrift" by RetromanOMG (http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/542368) The synth at :29 is really beautiful, and then at 1:00 it develops even more, but once the real melody comes in at 1:23 you realize that everything else was just hinting at that melody, and that makes it even better! So while that 1:28 thing is asdfawesome, you could build up the tension even more and make it better by having hints at the melody earlier in the song. (You may be thinking, ah, that's the thing that johnfn did in "The Fight"! Actually, that was completely unintentional but ... sure.)

The irony is that you do build up a melody which I hear quite a few times through the song - first heard at :36 - but imo it's not as interesting. I mean, it's not bad, and I particularly like that take on it at 1:01 with the crazy chords and trills, but why choose that one when you could have chosen 1:28? :P

Last thing about 1:28 is that the structure of the climax is [BIG 1:28 MELODY] [little 1:28 repeated melody]. In the aim of building up tension for the big melody, I'd suggest to reverse the order, so that you do the quiet idea before the big one. Maybe you could put the melody in a woodwind and tweak it slightly.

I enjoy the stuff towards 2:30, especially that little flair at 2:42 (that was nicely foreshadowed at 2:11, in a different timesig!). I kinda wish we'd hear that flair again, maybe just a little later in a variation.

Again I feel like the arrangement is flip floppy, because this is the great exploration, and 1:28 is where you finally find the treasure!

Last thing: I don't really like that section at 3:03 - it's a tension builder, but it's out of place right near the end of the song, since the next section is very calm and not tense at all.

NIT PICKS

One fun nit pick at 3:43: your melody is building up a lot of tension by wanting to eventually resolve down to the root note (I'm just going to call it C because I only have relative pitch), and the trill ramps up the tension even more... but then you actually hit C as you're going down to B, which dissolves all tension. I really like the idea of drawing out that final resolution though, that plus the OCD timpani roll makes for a great ending.

While the 1:05 trills are awesome and really attention-grabbing, I don't really get what the point of them are (from an arrangement/compositional point of view). They seem to be leading into that hit at 1:07, but that isn't all too obvious.

The other thing I want to nit pick is the quantization errors/humanization you put in. Like 3:31 for example. I mean, if we're to imagine this is being played by a professional orchestra, then they probably wouldn't be making such obvious mistakes. (I was unsure if that was the intent, or if you were going for rubato here - if you were going for rubato then I think you should slow down the entire melody gradually rather than just a singe note.)

On the other hand I like the callback to the melody all the way back at :39. Very nice way to tie the piece together :)

OVERALL

In conclusion, good luck fitting a response to this within the character limit ahahahahh

No but seriously this is great and has a lot of detail - it's amazing that I can write all this about it and still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I can see why this would be one of your favorite pieces. Is it as good as Encapsulation? Well, this is far more complex, and has far more melodic content, but Encapsulation was arranged much better, and what melodic stuff it had was slightly more mature. So who knows.

...Also Encapsulation was done in 3 days and this was done in a month. That is quite an improvement.

Alright I really need to wrap this thing up. This song is epic, easy 10/10.

Step responds:

Whoaaa, I expected a lengthy review from you but not THIS big. johnfn you da BEST.

"Oh man... Sanctuary... The song with like 100 reviews... the ultimate challenge as an Audio Reviewer. My review started getting long enough that I needed to split it up into sections, where I would critique individual aspects of the song."

Yeah, this track has loads of reviews. It's my most popular track by far. I originally submitted it to a competition but it didn't place in the top 8. On the bright side, however, I landed 31,000 views and nearly 100 reviews, so that's sweet :3.

"Not even gonna bother, the melodies are great. Some are better than others, but I'll get into this in the arrangement section."

For some reason, in this track melodies were never a problem. The melodies all just came to me, which is rare considering what I usually have to go through to make a decent composition.

"You've got to be kidding me. The mixing is perfect. Splitting this review up is starting to look dumb. NEXT SECTION"

I actually think that the mix here is worse than my newer mixes. I find the 3/4 section a bit flat and all over the place. But yeah I was and am pretty proud with this mix otherwise!

"Looove. A highlight for me is 1:08 with the vaguely ethnic feel. Also 1:28 with the driving boomy hits. Or the tense tams at 3:11. So much detail work!"

You know me and my obsession for detailed percussion :3.

"The buildup from 1:00 to 1:20 is really well done and seamless, and the transition at 1:28 is just lovely. Which is good too, because it leads to THE BEST MELODY IN THE HISTORY OF NEWGROUNDS. Alright, that might be *slightly* superlative, but I could really point to only a handful of songs with comparable melodic expressivity to that point, at least on this site."

And that melody was just the result of a minute or two of doodling. And then I spend ages working on the melody for Tomb Shaker and it ends up turning out fairly badly. Brain y u do dis.

But yeah I like that melody too!

"So let's talk about arrangement - and move in from macro level to micro level arrangement. I assume we're both in agreement that 1:28 is the obvious highlight of this piece. I mean, there is a lot of other great stuff in this piece, but it's not going to top 1:28."

In my tracks, the highlights are almost always the climaxes. I still have yet to get the hang of creating meaningful soft sections.

"So what I think is that 1:28 should come later into the piece. Like, it's the climax, so it should come near to the end, otherwise you're just waiting for the piece to build down, and people are much more willing to let the song build up (rising tension) rather than waiting for the song to build down (falling tension). I think that all the stuff starting at around 2:00 once the 1:28 melody is finally been played out could be moved to the beginning of the song."

Totally agree. Either that or I add another climactic section like the first. Buoy suggested that too in his enormous three-account review in pages 17-18 of the review section. I think that might've been just because of time constraints (or maybe because I couldn't be arsed haha).

"While we're talking about it, the thing that I notice that really good artists do is that they'll foreshadow the melody ahead of time. An excellent example of this is "Alone and Adrift" by RetromanOMG (http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/542368) The synth at :29 is really beautiful, and then at 1:00 it develops even more, but once the real melody comes in at 1:23 you realize that everything else was just hinting at that melody, and that makes it even better! So while that 1:28 thing is asdfawesome, you could build up the tension even more and make it better by having hints at the melody earlier in the song. (You may be thinking, ah, that's the thing that johnfn did in "The Fight"! Actually, that was completely unintentional but ... sure.)"

That is an excellent idea. I hear that kind of stuff a lot in pieces from the baroque/classical/romantic era. It makes a lot of sense because right now the 1:28 melody is only there to serve as a high climactic point, when it could sound a lot more developed if I had foreshadowed it a little.

"The irony is that you do build up a melody which I hear quite a few times through the song - first heard at :36 - but imo it's not as interesting. I mean, it's not bad, and I particularly like that take on it at 1:01 with the crazy chords and trills, but why choose that one when you could have chosen 1:28? :P"

Yeah why DID I do that x_x. I personally like both melodies almost equally (I'm slightly more partial towards the 1:28 one though), but arrangement-wise it would've made a lot more sense had I used the 1:28 melody.

"Last thing about 1:28 is that the structure of the climax is [BIG 1:28 MELODY] [little 1:28 repeated melody]. In the aim of building up tension for the big melody, I'd suggest to reverse the order, so that you do the quiet idea before the big one. Maybe you could put the melody in a woodwind and tweak it slightly."

Interesting idea. Would work really well for the 1:42 - 1:47 measures.

"I enjoy the stuff towards 2:30, especially that little flair at 2:42 (that was nicely foreshadowed at 2:11, in a different timesig!). I kinda wish we'd hear that flair again, maybe just a little later in a variation."

Wow, really nice call on that 2:11 foreshadowing thing. That wasn't even intentional but upon listening again I just noticed they're the exact same chords! I guess that's just because I wanted a perfect cadence at both points, but then again at the time I didn't even know what cadences were. I DUNNO.

"Last thing: I don't really like that section at 3:03 - it's a tension builder, but it's out of place right near the end of the song, since the next section is very calm and not tense at all."

Wow, that is a problem I've had with that part for ages now. I agree 1000%. I wanted to transition back from 3/4 to 4/4 effectively but couldn't think of anything other than making a section that's a bit more rubato and less melodic to join them together, and not only did that not even generate a smooth transition, but the resulting section ended up being far too tense for what was coming after it.

"One fun nit pick at 3:43: your melody is building up a lot of tension by wanting to eventually resolve down to the root note (I'm just going to call it C because I only have relative pitch), and the trill ramps up the tension even more... but then you actually hit C as you're going down to B, which dissolves all tension. I really like the idea of drawing out that final resolution though, that plus the OCD timpani roll makes for a great ending."

Oh wow, you're right - it would've sounded better had I not used the root note. WHY DON'T I THINK OF THESE THINGS DAMN IT. Also that OCD timpani roll haha. It's probably the best thing that ever came out of my self-diagnosed OCD.

"While the 1:05 trills are awesome and really attention-grabbing, I don't really get what the point of them are (from an arrangement/compositional point of view). They seem to be leading into that hit at 1:07, but that isn't all too obvious."

Well, partly to lead onto that hit at 1:07, and partly to indicate a sense of danger, since everything before that was serene and calm. I've been criticised for making those dissonant chords and trills too loud, which might make them sound less like a sense of danger and more like a sense of disaster or something haha.

"The other thing I want to nit pick is the quantization errors/humanization you put in. Like 3:31 for example. I mean, if we're to imagine this is being played by a professional orchestra, then they probably wouldn't be making such obvious mistakes. (I was unsure if that was the intent, or if you were going for rubato here - if you were going for rubato then I think you should slow down the entire melody gradually rather than just a singe note.)"

The intent was rubato, or rather just slowing down the melody for the ending's resolution, but again, I agree that it should've been more gradual.

"On the other hand I like the callback to the melody all the way back at :39. Very nice way to tie the piece together :)"

I personally think it sounds a bit forced and would've sounded better if I transitioned properly to it and perhaps played the 1:28 melody instead (except softly of course). But thanks!

"In conclusion, good luck fitting a response to this within the character limit ahahahahh"

IT HAS BEEN DONE.

"No but seriously this is great and has a lot of detail - it's amazing that I can write all this about it and still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I can see why this would be one of your favorite pieces. Is it as good as Encapsulation? Well, this is far more complex, and has far more melodic content, but Encapsulation was arranged much better, and what melodic stuff it had was slightly more mature. So who knows."

Well, if one track of mine offers any competition to Sanctuary, it would be Encapsulation. That also reminds me that apart from that song, this year I haven't actually made anything that I'm truly proud of, except my Harmony of Heroes arrangement x_x. I mean, I've made some decent stuff this year, but nothing I really poured a lot of effort and work into. It's times like this I wish I didn't have university occupying something like 85% of my time awake.

"...Also Encapsulation was done in 3 days and this was done in a month. That is quite an improvement."

Yeah Encapsulation was just a stroke of luck. I have no idea how I managed to make it in that small time period, and for it to be actually good enough to win the NGMT round it was in. But that is definitely one way of looking at it :p.

"Alright I really need to wrap this thing up. This song is epic, easy 10/10."

Thanks so much for the excellent review. I realise we basically agree on every point, but since when do we DISAGREE on something? Thanks again, this review really is more than I could've ever asked for.

First things first is that snare is amazing. It's the first thing that caught my attention when I listened to the track and it really gives the track a LOT of energy. In fact I liked it so much that I wrote down in my list of musical ideas "write a song with a huge snare." :)

I also really like the use of the electric guitar as texture to bring more energy to the track. I felt like maybe the percussion could have been a bit more varied. You know what would be really awesome? What if in that final coda section starting at 2:00 with the double snare hit you used a similar but more driving snare to really indicate an "end of the world" sort of idea.

The mixing of the percussion is overall really well done.

The melodies are generally really good in dat RPG epic battle sense. I really really love that section that kicks off at :25 that makes use of that RPG III chord idea in such a fun way. However there's a mixing problem here, where the chords and the melody are the same loudness. I think that the instrument carrying the melody should really be front and center, with only the beats louder than it. As is, it sits kind of quietly in the mix and I think that a lot of people could miss it. This problem carries throughout almost the entire track, and it's actually probably my biggest critique.

My other suggestion is that there is no bassline to speak of. I hear almost nothing in the low end of this song at all (alright, it sounds like there's something soft down there, but it's not really filling out the bass as well as it could). In the Chrono Trigger battle music, there's this really sweet bassline that goes through the whole track and really makes the whole thing awesome. Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeNkqEOQ15I&noredirect=1

I'm not saying that you *have* to do something like that, but it would make the track pretty neat :)

Final suggestion is about the melodies (again). While they are good, they aren't really driving the song forward, you know? Some melodies really drive the song forward, but the melodies in this track feel a little "slow" (except at :25). (This is a really hard thing to describe.) I think if you were to bump around the rhythms so that the notes don't always start on beat, you could get some more driving melodies.

I really like the chords at 1:25 that move quickly from one to the other. That's something I don't hear too often, and it works well.

Overall, this track is really good. Totally sounds straight out of some RPG soundtrack, and it uses a lot of the RPG musical idioms really nicely. I think you did a great job here and hopefully my tips can help you make it even better :D

K-Pone responds:

Wow, that's quite a lot. Don't know where to start. But I also don't want to reply just with a little 'thanks'. Indeed I now recognize things you mentioned that I didn't notice before. The mastering can be a problem in LMMS since you also don't have much analyzing stuff available there if you don't add some VSTs. But to be honest, I didn't do much mastering here, just adjusting the volume levels to avoid nasty clipping noises. I don't make use of things like EQs, Limiters, Compressors and such very often, only if it's really needed. Of course lots of people recommend to do it, but in my opinion, it should sound as it would 'normally' do. But that doesn't mean I would never ever do that some day. I'll think about your tips when making a new song next time. They seem to be kinda helpful.

I'm quite impressed this is live! I don't think I could play anything like this live without making a ton of mistakes. And what a beautiful song to cover. I've never heard of this song before, but I *really* like it, it has some really beautiful melodic ideas, and particularly good chords like at 1:17, 1:38, 1:44 (!!!), and 2:18. So thank you for introducing me :)

This review is going to be a little weird because since this is not an original piece by you I can't really talk about the composition all too much. Fortunately, I think I can dig up some other things to talk about...

The one thing that I do want to complain about is the piano itself. Though it has a lovely tone, every note sounds like you're striking the piano as hard as possible. Since you said it's live, I doubt this is your fault (unless you really do smash the piano to bits as you play haha), so I think it's a problem with the piano itself. If you can find a piano that's more velocity sensitive, so that if you play softly then it'd play a soft piano note, that would lend SO MUCH to the expressivity of the piece. You might not believe me, but just try out a piano that can sense velocity properly. It's like night and day.

The other thing to think about is the pads. The current problem with the pads is they follow the melody, but in reality you want the pads to follow the chords. If you were to switch the pianos out, you could manually set up pads to follow the chords and you'd fix that problem too. (Or, you wouldn't have any pads and that would juts be fine).

One minor technical thing: I hear a bit of a tempo slowdown at 1:21.

I think that I told you in my response to you on my user post that I would be really nice and tell you lots of things I like. Well, it turns out I LIED. You see, for a normal piece I like to point out all the good things someone is doing because otherwise they will feel bad about themselves. But for pieces that are quite good, I just end up complaining a lot because, well, the piece is good. Your piece falls into this second category. It's great, and I'm impressed by your skills on the piano. With a properly expressive piano (that is, one that has velocity) I'd probably be head over heels. Good stuff!

TeraVex responds:

Thank you so much! I'm very happy you liked it! I'll try to fix the velocity issues that you mentioned in your review.

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